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Post by engineer on Sept 23, 2006 15:58:36 GMT -5
------------------ Note: I did search the topic fourms and there seems to be no question similar to this. However if it was raised before then I encourage the moderators to delete this post and/or link to the relevant thread. ------------------- While Haruka and Michiru are confirmed lesbians verified by canon (in anime and manga), Setsuna never did openly express a perference to gender. From my recent viewing of the entire anime series, she never did go ga-ga over any male or female character. Even in the manga I find no evidence of her perference.
It is worthwhile to mention one scene in the manga that *could* establish her sexuality - the conversation between her and Endymion (who hapens to be 100% male). The reason why I said worthwhile to mention is due to that conversation between the said characters has been interpeted differently by different people and in some cases even inspired epic long, romantic fanfictions of the two people. IMO, I really could not see it as evidence of support for her being heterosexual or even having romantic feelings to that man in particular. But thats a totally different subject I would not want to get into.
What do the rest of the members think? If you have any evidence supporting either catorgory Id like to hear it.
There is a third option in which she could be asexual. That however is not uncommon.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Sept 23, 2006 20:58:27 GMT -5
That's interesting actually. I think I'd see her as asexual - she probably wouldn't have enough time to put any effort into a relationship as it is, given her position.
She may have had particular thoughts but would probably keep them to herself.
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Post by Zyppora on Sept 24, 2006 2:11:45 GMT -5
To be honest, I'd be surprised if she wouldn't have had particular thoughts.
To me, it looks like she's completely duty-driven. Even though she's got plenty of it, she wouldn't want to waste time on volatile things like love. She knows she'll eventually be left alone anyway, having a lifespan that far surpasses any other human's.
Whenever she pops up, there's bound to be somethin serious going on. I think that fact makes her asexual (it wouldn't do good to have someone as important and rational as her to be biased/blinded by emotions).
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Post by Creshosk on Sept 25, 2006 19:57:46 GMT -5
Does anybody else find it odd that a senshi that exists outside of time has no time for other things?
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Sept 25, 2006 22:21:23 GMT -5
She doesn't like to abuse her abilities too often - especially not for her own selfish needs.
It's the way she was "created", the way she's portrayed. Of course fan-fics would feature her in other ways, but for "canon" sake, this is what she's like.
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Post by engineer on Sept 26, 2006 1:25:52 GMT -5
I totally overlooked her duty driven side and position as one possible reason she didnt pursue any relationship. So due to the lack of evidence, her perference (and one other senshi) is up to the fanauthor's liking.
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Post by Zyppora on Sept 26, 2006 2:07:52 GMT -5
Does anybody else find it odd that a senshi that exists outside of time has no time for other things? Yes, but then again, it's not just time that keeps her from pursuing a relationship.
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Post by engineer on Sept 26, 2006 2:39:11 GMT -5
"Yes, but then again, it's not just time that keeps her from pursuing a relationship." Could it be her duty to her princess and title as sailor senshi? Though emphasised more in the manga than anime, sailor senshi take thier job and devotion to thier princess very very seriously. Which is why I have a hard time wrapping my brain around the typical betrayal fics out there.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Sept 26, 2006 2:42:20 GMT -5
RE: the "betrayal fics" - I guess if they were manipulated by some sort of powerful/magical force it could make sense.
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Post by Zyppora on Sept 26, 2006 3:43:08 GMT -5
I don't think it's the duty towards her princess per se, but more her duty of guarding the time doors etc. What if she let emotions interfere with that? As explained in Back to the Future, time is a nasty thing to mess with. And betrayal fics ... well, most good ones out there have an explanation for why the Senshi do what they do, including the betrayals. And that's the beauty of fan fiction
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Post by Kabal on Sept 26, 2006 4:41:48 GMT -5
Heh, well her relationship to time itself aside (Her duty possibly lends certain quirks such as lengthened timespan) Human nature is as Inevitable as it is inexorable. Eventually she will have some form of thoughts of the subject, whether it is longing for emotion, or even simply wanting a child, or some self expression of emotion. Even the most blatant ice queen tends to have needs, and denial of them can only take you so far before they drown you.
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Post by hawk1 on Sept 26, 2006 5:19:08 GMT -5
Hope you don't mind me just jumping in on the conversation here...it has been awhile. *boots up brain* Okay lets go I agree wholeheartedly with alot of what you are all saying in regards to Setsuna's sexual preference. Since I have not read very much of the Manga I will simply stick to my knowledge of her character through the Anime. Setsuna is as you have all said a very driven person. She has a mission and she adhere's to it very rarely deviating or abusing her powers. That said as you all have mentioned she actualy does have more than enough time to persue a relationship if she so desired however there are things standing in her path; I'll try to list some of them now. Job Location: Is the first that comes to mind. Its kinda hard to persue a serious relationship when long distence means 'multi-demensional' she has a duty to guard the gates of time. A duty that she takes extremly seriously. She may get feelings from time to time for people however Setsuna is in the end a realist and thus she is well aware that her job takes precedence over any relationship she would want to persue. Inner Pain: Is what comes to me second. Setsuna had the amazingly unenviable job of watching everyone she cared about and loved die. She is an amzingly tough individual, however I doubt that she would allow herself to get extremly close to another person again. She maintains an alof and somewhat haughty tone with everyone she comes in contact with, except for one person, Chibiusa. She cares about Small Lady in a way that she doesn't care about anything other than her task. Which begs an interesting question of...why Chibiusa? If anyone wants to take a stab at that I would personaly find the answers interesting. Well I hope this wasn't too bad for my first attempt in awhile. Nice to see you all again.
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Post by Creshosk on Sept 26, 2006 7:10:07 GMT -5
Yes, but then again, it's not just time that keeps her from pursuing a relationship. Time isn't a factor that keeps her from persuing a relationship at all. It's pretty much a non-factor in the equation.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Sept 26, 2006 7:12:33 GMT -5
That's a good point, most definitely, I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by nekosenshi on Nov 30, 2006 15:18:22 GMT -5
I don't think Setsuna is really haughty, she's just reserved. I think she doesn't want to get too close to people because of her duties. She doesn't seem to look down on others at all. I think of her, Uranus and Neptune, in the S series, Setsuna is the one who is most open with the inner senshi. She talks to them a couple times at Rei's place, and lets the inner senshi see the nightmare Rei had been having. I think Haruka and Michiru were more aloof in the S series. It's nice that in Stars the inner and outer senshi seem to like each other more.
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