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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on Nov 17, 2005 1:06:47 GMT -5
it was on the NEWS, but the evidence is right there, andthe church isnt afraid, jesus was indeed the son of god, those responsible endure the suffering now, you cant disprove the existance of god, it would leave nothing to explain how the universe came to be, how life itself is, and how the supernatural is so potent, there would be no explanation if someone claimed god never existed, it would take the rest of eternity to find the answers without the bible, had god not existed, reality, nay, existance would never exist.
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Post by Zyppora on Nov 17, 2005 4:11:30 GMT -5
it was on the NEWS, but the evidence is right there, andthe church isnt afraid, jesus was indeed the son of god, those responsible endure the suffering now, you cant disprove the existance of god, it would leave nothing to explain how the universe came to be, how life itself is, and how the supernatural is so potent, there would be no explanation if someone claimed god never existed, it would take the rest of eternity to find the answers without the bible, had god not existed, reality, nay, existance would never exist. Heh, let's take a beautiful example here. You know the Greek king of gods, Zeus. You know what he did when he was angry with the pplz? He threw lightning bolts down at them. That was the explanation for lightning storms back in ancient Greece. Nowadays, we have another, more logical explanation for this phenomenon: static electricity building up in the clouds. Makes a lot more sense to me. And with this, I've indicated the concept of a god: to explain the unexplained, until there's a scientific explanation that makes a lot more sense. I'm not saying there's no god, but if there is, I'd like to ask him why he introduced deseases, poverty, holocausts, etc. Why, Raptor, do you give him so much credit when he made you to what you are: a lazy, disabled guy?
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Post by The Godess of Destruction on Nov 17, 2005 21:38:16 GMT -5
i think the concept of religion is very sensitive to touch i say God is here and i beleave in him and i neve lose hope some day we all now what is the true about this world until then we only can belive in our fait.
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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on Nov 20, 2005 19:05:09 GMT -5
firstly: I'm not lazy, I've mental disabilities that make me unable to gain a job.
secondly: God let those things happen as diseases already exist, holocausts are caused by PEOPLE, and poverty is caused by a lousy government. God gave humanity the foundation of what makes us HUMAN, FREE WILL, we are free to choose what we do, but human errors make us suffer, free will, human error, and individual personalities, tend to lead to our problems, as hitler used his free will to become an evil corrupt asshole, who killed not just jewish people, but Gypsies, and Polish people, all of which were innocent victims who couldnt fight back, all because hitler beleived the same thing as the kkk, an "arian race" of blue eyed blonde haired 6foot and taller brawlers who were genocidal. hitler was a sicko and deserved to have pinaples shoved up his ass point first.
look at Denis Rodman, he used his free will to make his hair all weird, and chose to be weird.
look at Hattori Hanzo, he chose to get close to his enemy, and avenge his clan who was slain when he was young, and he was recognized as the archtype of ALL ninja.
look at all the things that happened, free will allows us to choose, those of us who put our faith in god are tested to see if we'll still beleive in god, or if we'll turn away from him, those of us who remain faithful are rewarded in due time for our faith, and those who turn away from god or deny his everlasting existance either get a second chance to beleive in god, or get a trip to hell to rot for all eternity. if you were right zyp, we'd just become rotting corpses, but since I'm right(being psychic I have a better grasp on the supernatural), you'll go to hell for not beleiving in god, where you'll be forced to suffer for eternity.
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Post by Zyppora on Nov 21, 2005 4:13:56 GMT -5
firstly: I'm not lazy, I've mental disabilities that make me unable to gain a job. Sounds to me like a glorified way to say you're lazy. secondly: God let those things happen as diseases already exist, holocausts are caused by PEOPLE, and poverty is caused by a lousy government. God gave humanity the foundation of what makes us HUMAN, FREE WILL, we are free to choose what we do, but human errors make us suffer, free will, human error, and individual personalities, tend to lead to our problems, as hitler used his free will to become an evil corrupt asshole, who killed not just jewish people, but Gypsies, and Polish people, all of which were innocent victims who couldnt fight back, all because hitler beleived the same thing as the kkk, an "arian race" of blue eyed blonde haired 6foot and taller brawlers who were genocidal. hitler was a sicko and deserved to have pinaples shoved up his ass point first. Hitler may have been a sicko, but he was also a genius. Think about it. He has a goal, to create a race that only exists of the übermensch. He had done his research. In Germany, he was like a god back in the days. He told Japan NOT to attack Hawaii. It was the Japanese that severely messed up the war for him and that eventually made him lose the war. He would have definately won. look at Denis Rodman, he used his free will to make his hair all weird, and chose to be weird. look at Hattori Hanzo, he chose to get close to his enemy, and avenge his clan who was slain when he was young, and he was recognized as the archtype of ALL ninja. Yes, free will. I wonder why god gave us free will. Maybe he wanted us to live our own lives, without having to worship him? look at all the things that happened, free will allows us to choose, those of us who put our faith in god are tested to see if we'll still beleive in god, or if we'll turn away from him, those of us who remain faithful are rewarded in due time for our faith, and those who turn away from god or deny his everlasting existance either get a second chance to beleive in god, or get a trip to hell to rot for all eternity. if you were right zyp, we'd just become rotting corpses, but since I'm right(being psychic I have a better grasp on the supernatural), you'll go to hell for not beleiving in god, where you'll be forced to suffer for eternity. Meh, it's okay Raptor, from what you just said, I'll get a second chance. I'll make up for not believing in him then.
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Post by The Godess of Destruction on Nov 24, 2005 2:57:16 GMT -5
the live is not easy they are so many things that humans dont utherstand i now what you mean zyppora i say i doubt about my faith when my mom die last year but then i untherstand if you are born some day you are gona die.
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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on Feb 12, 2006 2:18:20 GMT -5
and presicely the point of your test of your faith, life comes with death, when you're born you'll eventually die(unless you get a prostetic body and get some batteries hooked up to your brain for while sleeping to recharge mental capacity, but thats maybe 30 years in the future). though there are many things in life we know about, we live and die.
BTW: I noticed some stuff barely changed since my absence.
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Post by yumecosmos on Feb 19, 2006 19:28:03 GMT -5
Hey, it's a free country. People have a right to believe that God is real. People have a right to believe that homosexuality is wrong without being automatically branded as "closed-minded." And people have a right not to like other people's favorite pairings. But that doesn't mean they have to yell at each other about it, right?
(Hello again from 23 years later. No, you don't have any right to dictate how other people respond to your hateful beliefs.)
Anyway, back on topic. I was a fan of the Mako/Asanuma pairing for a while, but I think they pretty much put an end to that possibility after the R season. I like Jupiter with Nephrite best, but I'll admit that it works better as a tragic romance. In the end, I don't think Makoto should be paired with anyone, because her heart belongs to one person alone: Usagi. It's the same for the other senshi. They live and die for their princess, and even if they long for normal lives sometimes, in the end they seem to be happy that way.
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Post by Suigin on Feb 20, 2006 0:23:45 GMT -5
I personally like the Ami/Makoto coupling (It's a free country. I'm allowed to dream, so shut up with any of your "there's no proof of them being a couple" stuff. Stopping the arguement before it starts.)
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Post by Zyppora on Feb 20, 2006 5:01:48 GMT -5
Hey, it's a free country. People have a right to believe that God is real. People have a right to believe that homosexuality is wrong without being automatically branded as "closed-minded." And people have a right not to like other people's favorite pairings. But that doesn't mean they have to yell at each other about it, right? Uuh, kinda. Saying something is 'wrong' when it's actually just 'different' is wrong in itself. Homosexuality isn't 'wrong'. The concept of 'right' and 'wrong' is something you should judge for yourself, but we all have pretty much the same standards thanks to morals. But yes, no yelling required. We can settle these little arguments like grownups.
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Post by yumecosmos on Feb 20, 2006 15:21:12 GMT -5
But that entire statement, that there is no right and wrong, is an opinion in itself. You have just made a judgement that my statement is wrong, which implies that wrong exists. If wrong does not exist, than the statement that right and wrong do in fact exist cannot be wrong, so the entire philosophy is self-contradictory. Even as you say that everything is relative you are making an absolute statement.
There is really no such thing as an open mind. Choosing not to judge is still taking a position. And if someone says that everyone must accept everything as okay, they are making the ultimate in closed-minded statements by forcing people to agree with their universal "tolerance." Everyone does not have the same moral standards, nor can we expect them to. But people do have to make judgements, and they have a right not to believe in something. Now before everyone brands me as a homophobe, let me make it clear that I'm NOT saying gays and lesbians should be lined up and shot. Nor am I saying that I think they're all going to Hell. As a human and as a Christian I know that's not my place to judge. But I do believe homosexuality is wrong, and I'm not afraid to say that.
Sigh. I'm sorry, back then I didn't understand at all what homophobia was. Also, in the same paragraph I somehow said that people have to make judgments and yet it's not my place to judge. What? No, not all beliefs are equally valid, but smart people know how to listen and allow themselves to be educated.
In response to the discussion on free will, I think God gave people free will to see if they would still do the right thing when given the choice. It wouldn't mean anything to be a perfect person if it was your only option, because you were programmed to do so. And it wouldn't mean anything to be a perfect person if you lived in a perfect world, since it's easy to be agreeable when everything's going your way. True character is revealed when you're aware that you don't have to do the right thing, but you do it anyway.
(Well. At least that part's mostly right.)
And Raptor, while I agree with you that God exists, your method of arguing is not very convincing. You cannot use an assumption to prove itself: "If the world exists, God must exist. The world exists, therefore God exists." This is a logical fallacy. You may as well say "If grass exists, it must be purple. Grass exists, therefore grass is purple."
Wow, we've managed to drag this off topic.
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Post by Lucky Seven on Feb 20, 2006 15:58:44 GMT -5
I don't care who her boyfriend becomes just as long as she has one, because a hot woman needs a good man.
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Post by yumecosmos on Feb 20, 2006 16:54:06 GMT -5
Says who? We ladies get along just fine ourselves, thank you.
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Post by Creshosk on Feb 20, 2006 17:52:36 GMT -5
But that entire statement, that there is no right and wrong, is an opinion in itself. You have just made a judgement that my statement is wrong, which implies that wrong exists. If wrong does not exist, than the statement that right and wrong do in fact exist cannot be wrong, so the entire philosophy is self-contradictory. Even as you say that everything is relative you are making an absolute statement. There is really no such thing as an open mind. Choosing not to judge is still taking a position. And if someone says that everyone must accept everything as okay, they are making the ultimate in closed-minded statements by forcing people to agree with their universal "tolerance." Everyone does not have the same moral standards, nor can we expect them to. But people do have to make judgements, and they have a right not to believe in something. Now before everyone brands me as a homophobe, let me make it clear that I'm NOT saying gays and lesbians should be lined up and shot. Nor am I saying that I think they're all going to Hell. As a human and as a Christian I know that's not my place to judge. But I do believe homosexuality is wrong, and I'm not afraid to say that. In response to the discussion on free will, I think God gave people free will to see if they would still do the right thing when given the choice. It wouldn't mean anything to be a perfect person if it was your only option, because you were programmed to do so. And it wouldn't mean anything to be a perfect person if you lived in a perfect world, since it's easy to be agreeable when everything's going your way. True character is revealed when you're aware that you don't have to do the right thing, but you do it anyway. And Raptor, while I agree with you that God exists, your method of arguing is not very convincing. You cannot use an assumption to prove itself: "If the world exists, God must exist. The world exists, therefore God exists." This is a logical fallacy. You may as well say "If grass exists, it must be purple. Grass exists, therefore grass is purple." Wow, we've managed to drag this off topic. Words cannot express what I feel right now. That was very nice Peanut. Very nice. Though I don't see homosexuality as wrong. Just another choice. And one that doesn't hurt another person it is acceptable, though it's not one I would choose.
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Post by The Godess of Destruction on Feb 20, 2006 18:15:47 GMT -5
well like i say everyone is free to feel and to think wherever they whant me i love jupiter and i would like to see jupiter with nephrite.
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