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Post by Creshosk on Jan 15, 2004 2:04:31 GMT -5
Ahhh.... well... okay then.... sorry about that.... oops... ehe... well, anyways. I still say I love them together, whether everyone or no one agrees. Oh, I agree with you, I'm just a little urked by Raptor's assault on males of similar orientation. . . why? because I have some friends of that persuasion and I don't appriciate them being insulted like that.
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Post by NeptuneAngel on Jan 15, 2004 21:27:02 GMT -5
Actually, I know how you feel. I have a few friends like that, I was actually facing that problem not too long ago, if that is not too bold to say. I know where you're both coming from in this one, and all I can say is yes. Yes to you and how you feel, but also yes to raptor's rants. It is true that girl x girl relationships are rarely shown in the media, I've seen very little of that, if any at all. Guy x guy though is shown a lot more. If they would actually take the time to show both sides, the world might not be as closed minded about it. That's just my opinion though, you can argue it if you'd like.
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Post by Safire on Jan 15, 2004 21:55:58 GMT -5
Well, this may not be much help you Neptune but i definitely think Uranus/Neptune's releationship is without a doubt the most interesting of the shows romances.. I never find them old or stale like some of the others. Sorry if thats not prasing them.. i just dont like Uranus very much.. but neptune is a cool character thorugh...
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Post by NeptuneAngel on Jan 15, 2004 22:41:56 GMT -5
No way, I appreciate your opinion Safire. Thank you!!
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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on Jan 17, 2004 10:59:43 GMT -5
if you had seen how rude some men are when gay, then you'd understand. I'm more a femanist and I can understand the pain of childbirth. I put women to high regard as women are the mothers of our children. so seeing a man act so rude to a woman is sheer pain. and if you saw a guy show such "baditude" toward a woman in ways like walking all over her back with cleets, LITERALLY, and trying to force her out of her own place when he isnt invited, you'd see my point. I seen it more than once, psychic visions included. I have the utmost respect for women, knowing what women have to go through just to have a baby is torture, and brings extreme pain, followed by overwhelming happiness. that happiness makes childbirth that much worth it. a pain slightly simmilar, but not very close to childbirth, would be like grabbing your bottom lip, and stretching it around your head until it's wraped around the back of your head. if that isnt enough, childbirth in my mind is like trying to pass a 1996 Ford Explorer through your colon. thats what I think is closer to the pain of childbirth.
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Post by NeptuneAngel on Jan 18, 2004 12:49:09 GMT -5
Raptor, you do realize that you're realizing dissing yourself, right? By the way, most gay guys I know are great. They're really sweet and understanding, but that could be just because I'm a girl. I don't know.
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Post by Creshosk on Jan 18, 2004 19:35:47 GMT -5
By the way, most gay guys I know are great. They're really sweet and understanding, but that could be just because I'm a girl. I don't know. No, most gay guys I know are great as well. Actually all of them are.
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Post by Safire on Jan 18, 2004 19:39:19 GMT -5
I dont mind gay guys as long as they dont hit on me.. then they might have some problems.. but of them i know are okay as well.
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Post by NeptuneAngel on Jan 19, 2004 16:09:35 GMT -5
See? So you really can't diss gay guys, they're pretty cool. They're all really understanding and caring, and they can relate with girls much better than straight guys. I've noticed that some of the cutest and greatest guys are gay. So, they're all actually quite great people. Besides I'm writing a story about a gay couple *ahem* and even though they're both quite moody, they each have special traits that just couldn't be there if they were straight. That's just the way it goes, I suppose.
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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on Jan 19, 2004 19:45:48 GMT -5
See? So you really can't diss gay guys, they're pretty cool. They're all really understanding and caring, and they can relate with girls much better than straight guys. I've noticed that some of the cutest and greatest guys are gay. So, they're all actually quite great people. Besides I'm writing a story about a gay couple *ahem* and even though they're both quite moody, they each have special traits that just couldn't be there if they were straight. That's just the way it goes, I suppose. you did know that back when Rome was the greatest empire built that it's armies consisted of gay men, so as they would fight passionately because their lover was next to them. and if you ran into rude gays like I did, your view would change entirely. I'm a straight male and because of the way I was brought up, I can find some way to relate to a woman. I may look mean and stonefaced most times, but you'd have to see past it to find the soft mushy inside which most girls would kill to see. I understand women search for a guy who is kind sweet and careing, but in terms of being human one must make sacrifices as according to nature, and I understand that homosexuals are the way they are because of a deformed hypathalamus, most cases I've heard it is shown a gay male has an egg shaped hypathalamus, as a straight male has a kidneybean shaped hypathalamus. and I'm still VERY pissed off about the whole gay ale pedofile raping young chior/alter boy thing. the whole man-boy love association thing is repulsive. not ONCE have I heard of a woman sexually molesting a young girl, NEVER have I heard of ANY case involving lesbian pedofelia. I hear of male pedofelia, but not female pedofelia. a male who has sex with another male is usually seen as either some weirdo, or a pedofile, and I hear about men being pedofiles constantly, and I'm not a pedofile, I'm a lonely man looking to fall in love with a woman and live a happy life under marrige til death do us part. if you're trying to fame the whole male homosexuality dont try, because someone who cares for their nephiews and neices will be horribly disgusted, and I intend to protect my first nephiew Bruce from child molestors.
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Post by Creshosk on Jan 19, 2004 20:04:27 GMT -5
you did know that back when Rome was the greatest empire built that it's armies consisted of gay men, so as they would fight passionately because their lover was next to them. and if you ran into rude gays like I did, your view would change entirely. I'm a straight male and because of the way I was brought up, I can find some way to relate to a woman. I may look mean and stonefaced most times, but you'd have to see past it to find the soft mushy inside which most girls would kill to see. I understand women search for a guy who is kind sweet and careing, but in terms of being human one must make sacrifices as according to nature, and I understand that homosexuals are the way they are because of a deformed hypathalamus, most cases I've heard it is shown a gay male has an egg shaped hypathalamus, as a straight male has a kidneybean shaped hypathalamus. and I'm still VERY pissed off about the whole gay ale pedofile raping young chior/alter boy thing. the whole man-boy love association thing is repulsive. not ONCE have I heard of a woman sexually molesting a young girl, NEVER have I heard of ANY case involving lesbian pedofelia. I hear of male pedofelia, but not female pedofelia. a male who has sex with another male is usually seen as either some weirdo, or a pedofile, and I hear about men being pedofiles constantly, and I'm not a pedofile, I'm a lonely man looking to fall in love with a woman and live a happy life under marrige til death do us part. if you're trying to fame the whole male homosexuality dont try, because someone who cares for their nephiews and neices will be horribly disgusted, and I intend to protect my first nephiew Bruce from child molestors. You are taking things out of context and blaming an entire group for what a few do. Both of you. The fallicy that both of you have is a sweeping generalazation. You encounter one or two bad examples and you imediatly blame the whole group for the failing of one or two of its members. Raptor. If you've encountered as much as I have you'd have heard of the lesbian pedophilia exists just as much as the males do. but there are no groups dedicated to the female saide as their is mabla for the male side. Do not let this influence your views of ALL members of one group. Not every gay guy is a pedaphile. And I don't know about this hypathalamus, thing. But if it is true then that means that it can't be helped. and you shouldn't blame people for things they cannot change.
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Post by Safire on Jan 19, 2004 20:51:33 GMT -5
"both of you"..? hey im i said i agree with you guys for the most part..
dont you guys think we are getting a little of-subject here? i mean gays and lesbians are people just like anyone else.. everyone has the potential for good and evil.. everyone.. no one is perfect..
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Post by Creshosk on Jan 19, 2004 20:55:59 GMT -5
"both of you"..? gays and lesbians are people just like anyone else.. everyone has the potential for good and evil.. everyone.. no one is perfect.. That's what I mean. Sorry if it was a little complicated. Don't judge a person just based on the group they are a part of. Heterosexual guys can connect to a female just as well as a homosexual guy. it depends on the individual.
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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on Jan 19, 2004 21:02:12 GMT -5
the Hypathalamus is the core of your brain and controls your release of hormones, it can make you or break you in society. proven a lot, a deformed hypathalamus made the roman army, but broke the United States army as only straights were permitted to join, and be sent to die and return to a country filled with homosexuals. if only homosexuals remain in a nation, then the population will drasticly drop until only immigrants who sneak over remain unpunished by the laws of those whoonce prospered. there are worse things to view, and if one is to gain superriority in this modern world, you need both eyes open, and the truth to guide you. unfortunately, this nation favors the rich and tries to use incompitant government figures, yet another part of my gripes.
and thats probably enough about digressing from the subject on the relationship between Haruka and Michiru. two female lovers on Sailor Moon.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Jan 19, 2004 21:08:11 GMT -5
I can see both sides of the argument, actually... I have a friend who is gay and he's very nice to me, and his friends... But there are others who seem to think that being gay is an invitation to act like total bitches. There was one guy at my college who was like that, he wasn't pleasant to be around at all.
Then there is my friend who claims to be bi-sexual. He was always so nice back in high school, and a year or so afterwards, but after he "came out" he's become quite mean and rude, especially to me in the past few weeks.
It depends on the person, really...
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