Neptune/Uranus?

[NeptuneAngel]

Do you think that the two of them are a good couple? I love them together, too bad they had to cut it out on the dubbed version... grr.... oh well... I was just wondering anyways. I think I'll post this on outer scouts too... so... you can respond to either, or both!!

Ja ne!

[RAPTOR 9:48]

I liked the thought about Uranus and Neptune being lesbos. it made sense. but take a look, the USA favors male X male sexual relationships over woman X woman relationships, the cheap f**ks! I'm better off trying to grab each episode with subtitles off the internet.

[Creshosk]

RAPTOR said:

but take a look, the USA favors male X male sexual relationships over woman X woman relationships, the cheap f**ks!

Wait what?

[NeptuneAngel]

America responds to boy x boy relationships way more than girl x girl relationships. I agree, its messed up. If you look at many different TV shows or other animes a lot of them have guy x guy, but very very few have girl x girl. Actually, I can't think of any right now. There are a few movies, but so very few. I just wish we could look around and realize that its not as bad as the world makes it. Neptune and Uranus fit together, that's all I have to say. I can't imagine them being "cousins".

[Creshosk]

NeptuneAngel said:

America responds to boy x boy relationships way more than girl x girl relationships. I agree, its messed up. If you look at many different TV shows or other animes a lot of them have guy x guy, but very very few have girl x girl. Actually, I can't think of any right now. There are a few movies, but so very few. I just wish we could look around and realize that its not as bad as the world makes it. Neptune and Uranus fit together, that's all I have to say. I can't imagine them being "cousins".

What do other anime have to do with America's tolerance? I think both are equally accepted with the "taboo" tolerence over here.

Check this out

www.tatu-paragate.jp/index.html

[RAPTOR 9:48]

the URL you posted doesnt help Creshosk, I'm familiar with the russian lezbo girls who became a musical hit. I saw that part of the VMAs. but the world should further embrace the fact that lesbians exist moreso than guy X guy relationships. it's morally disgusting to see two guys having sex or even french kissing eachother, it's bad enough with some sick minded preists molesting young boys. you never hear about a nun having sex with another nun, and woman X woman relationships are more understandable even on a reproductive standing, as in the case of one woman having willing sex wityh a man, and gets inseminated, then shortly after(within maybe 6 hours) has sex with a woman, then both women in tern become pregnant if not the second or first inseminated. in the case of men having sex, there is no area of child production, and only provides risk of colon cancer and STDs like HIV and AIDS, as "queers" are moreso prone to having gay sex which results in death, that and you defile your own body in ways unimaginable if you're a homosexual male, and without the joy of becomming a parent(though I'm also pro-choice and pro-life, I agree that a persons body is their buisness, but male homosexuality should be banned from the media).

[NeptuneAngel]

And I have to agree with Raptor. I mean, honestly, girl x girl relationships are less known about. Though, if people knew more about it, they would probably be more excepting of it, is all I'm saying, like they are with guy x guy relationships.

[RAPTOR 9:48]

I know the whole situation with the relationships. girl X girl contain the child-bearing perk, but there are man-loathing lesbians in Provincetown Massachusetts, they hate men, and they dont want anything to do with men. as there are actually gay men who want nothing to do with women, and intend on turning the whole world gay. I find guy X guy sexual relationships wrong, disgusting, and disgraceful, I'd pummel the holy shit outa my own sons if they told me they were gay, I'd beat the shit outa them so much their hypathalamus would be corrected and they'd be straight. women are more versatile in sexual relationships as women are the key holders of reproduction, bearing children is a prerequisite of being a woman, and I see girl X girl relationships as a more understandable way of doing things. besides, two guys who are gay have no chance of going to heaven, and atheism is a guarantee for an eternity to hell unless you have one deathly experience, then saved by God in return for converting to either Christianity, Catholosism, Jewdism, or protestantism, buddism enabels you to be reincarnated same as hinduism, in fact, all religions allow reincarnation but only if you wanna mulligan yourself.

back to topic... I say those dubbing f**ktards shoudl REDUB with the original Japanese script in tact, and use the diolouge, but translated PROPERLY to English, uncut, uncensored, with all the tips in tact!. they are as follows...

many Old men are letchers, and flirt with hot young girls in a feeble attempt at getting laid to rejuvinate their lost youth.
LESBIANS EXIST.
FARTS ARE FUNNY.
Male Homosexuality is punished by the people and the church in reality.
People BLEED when cut and shot!
dead bodies DONT fade away when a person dies, if anything close, the corpse DECAYS..
the USA government is corrupt.
some people drive without licences in many countries.
English is the universal language(asside from Telepathy)
English is the FIRST language of the USA, Australia, England, and some parts of Asia and Africa.
Gun Control laws are worth shit.
Lesbians are smarter, more sanitary,and reproductively active than queers.

thus my list of things, there's more, but they'll be in later.

[Safire]

Well, most of the time I agree with you guys but on this one im with Creshosk, First of all as much as us anime freaks love shows like Sailor moon.. deep down at the root it's still a fictional story.. The characters, relationships, and people as sad as it may seem only exist in our heads, Television screens and comic books..

Now It's very hard to compare a fictional world with society today.. And in America the only Reason you hear more about Gay people over lesbians is because of the fact for the majority most people are more disgusted by men relationships.. Subconsciously we all like to hear things on the News or Radio we don't necessarily like.. Ex: Most of us don't like war but whenever there is one we can't stop looking at it on the news..

Also even if you did compare Neptune/Uranus'es relationship there is also another factor that you have to take under consideration. Sailor moon in it's purest form is based in Japan! This is America.. That Is Japan.. Two totally different cultures and backgrounds.. You cant compare the two, They are too different..

Why When American Indians were riding horses and against white settlers.. Japan had the way of the sword and samurai.. The United States was created and ran off principles of Democracy.. Japan AN emperor ran the show all the way up to the end of world war two!
You cant compare The two different countries views and just because our views are different then theirs doesn't mean either is wrong.. That's what I think at any rate.

Raptor you must have some serious Issues with the USA.. Not to be rude but if you hate The form of government and personal views so much here why don't you move to a place like Japan? You may be happier there.

[NeptuneAngel]

You do have a good point Safire. But so does Raptor.

And I'd love to live in Japan, I don't belong in the US. I don't fit in here, but in Japan I'd feel like I belonged. I don't personally like how we do thilngs in US, and I don't want anyone reading this and getting all ticked. I'm just saying, I like Japan better, ok? That's all.

I can't say who I agree with more though, because I don't like watching about the war Safire. I can't stand it, and I leave the room whenever my parents turn it on. I'd rather watch anime, or hang with my friends. Either way, I can't stand to hear about things on TV or anywhere else that may have something I don't like on it.

Also, I've had a really hard time lately questioning my sexuality (I hope I'm not being too bold right now). I would appreciate it if people let the world know that its not a perfect life out there. They should show lesbians if they're going to show gay men. That's how I feel anyways.

Ja!

[RAPTOR 9:48]

NeptuneAngel said:

You do have a good point Safire. But so does Raptor.

And I'd love to live in Japan, I don't belong in the US. I don't fit in here, but in Japan I'd feel like I belonged. I don't personally like how we do thilngs in US, and I don't want anyone reading this and getting all ticked. I'm just saying, I like Japan better, ok? That's all.

I can't say who I agree with more though, because I don't like watching about the war Safire. I can't stand it, and I leave the room whenever my parents turn it on. I'd rather watch anime, or hang with my friends. Either way, I can't stand to hear about things on TV or anywhere else that may have something I don't like on it.

Also, I've had a really hard time lately questioning my sexuality (I hope I'm not being too bold right now). I would appreciate it if people let the world know that its not a perfect life out there. They should show lesbians if they're going to show gay men. That's how I feel anyways.

Ja!

it's better to be viciously honest than to kindly lie. but if you ever need an ear to listen, mine are always open. asside from my kind honest words, now for my vicious honesty on polotics, G.W.Bush is an incompitant ass with no grasp on reality, thinking his plans will work, raising taxes is the only way to make the rich pay, and to use force by making it more strict for the rich to pay taxes, or go to prison and get raped by big black bubbuh. you gotta be strict with the rich, the middle and lower class need guns, and Bush is incompitant, look at both Bushes in office, and compare them to predacessors who earned 2 terms, Clinton got 2 terms because he got us outa debt, and his affair showed us he's still human, and he made a few weed jokes on TV when interviewed, Regan loved jelly beans, and was a great communicator, that and he showed no mercy to terrorists, and attacked them from their front door with as many bombs as there were to spare. look at clinton, and regan, and look at the Bushes, the Bush family is incompitant in polotics, as someone like me would do MUCH better, regardless of my age. I'm only 20, but I'd do MUCH better than Bush. back to the original topic, I think that SM should be redubbed with the info provided in tact, Reis grampa is a dirty letcher, Lesbians exist and are MUCH more refined than queers, especially the relationship between Haruka and Michiru.

[Creshosk]

RAPTOR said:

Lesbians exist and are MUCH more refined than queers, especially the relationship between Haruka and Michiru.

*sigh* look, there are an equal amount of lesbians and Gays in anime, saying that either group is "more refined" than the other is just ignorant. Shonenai and shoujoai can both be just as refined, yaoi and yuri can be just as dirty.

Your personal views and tastes are appearently blinding you, your opinions are heavily biased from a deep rooted phobia that stems from the same thing that most homophobic people are, self.

Again, the cultural differences issue. It's well known that the Japanese are not as romantically or physically expressive in their relationships publicly. I remember reading the author's notes in the graphic novel of "Futaba-Kun Change" how Japanese romance stories frustrates Americans in general because people aren't as bold and upfront with their feelings and actions.

This point is important when someone says "Well, So-and-So can't be involved with that person because they never did (fill in the blank.)" As one famous anime director pointed out, anime fans like to use their imagination -- I admit he wasn't talking about romance and sex, but you get the reason why I brought this quote up.

It's hard to remember that people in other countries, with completely different social behaviors and ethics, just don't think or view things the same way you do. And it's easy to fall into the ethnocentric trap of judging them as the Lesser.

I only highlight this point because of the male fantasy about women having sex with each other seem to have strong elements in many titles that are brought over when there are clearly no female marketing intentions behind the licensing. The challenge is picking through the questionable material to see if there's anything self-respecting lesbians can take pride and interest in watching.

Plus, there's also the issue in that what men find attractive about women and what women find attractive about women are not necessarily the same things.

hometown.aol.com/_ht_a/pkeanime/

Here go ahead and read that.

[NeptuneAngel]

I'm not ignorant! Thanks.

[Creshosk]

NeptuneAngel said:

I'm not ignorant! Thanks.

That was for raptor, mostly.

[NeptuneAngel]

Ahhh.... well... okay then.... sorry about that.... oops... ehe... well, anyways. I still say I love them together, whether everyone or no one agrees.