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Post by moonprince804 on Aug 5, 2005 10:16:27 GMT -5
Like I said before, you shouldn't be complaining because YOU ARE GETTING PAID!!!!! All that hard work you're complaining about pays off with money, while my hard work pays off with a crappy ''education''. I don't care about that, I want money!
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Post by Zyppora on Aug 5, 2005 19:15:50 GMT -5
Like I said before, you shouldn't be complaining because YOU ARE GETTING PAID!!!!! All that hard work you're complaining about pays off with money, while my hard work pays off with a crappy ''education''. I don't care about that, I want money! Your education will determine just how much you'll get paid later on. It's like the multiplier of your salary: on itself, it's not much, but give it an attribute (such as a constant representing the default salary) and it will end up in large amounts.
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Post by hawksgirl19 on Aug 6, 2005 1:11:10 GMT -5
Let's see, my schedule for college: Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays: Research Methods 1; Intro to Creative Fictional Writing; Pop, Rock & Jazz; & Elementary Italian Tuesdays: Elementary Italian & Italian Lab Thursdays: Elementary Italian
The MWF classes are from 9am-1pm back to back to back...back, while the Elem. Ital. is from 12-1 & the lab is from 4:30-5:30 in the afternoon. Plus, I have 13 hours of work/week (Thursday is my day off, as well as Saturday & all but 2 Sundays).
I do miss elementary school. Back in the day, definitely didn't have a care in the world & could just relax. Not to mention, I was in MUCH better shape, lol! I could do all sorts of things without people looking at me like I was crazy & just about anything I did that was silly, adults thought was just adorable. Does what I just said qualify me as wanting to be lazy, irresponsible, etc., Yaten? Ask Hawk & he'll tell you a completely different story...
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Aug 7, 2005 1:20:56 GMT -5
Like I said before, you shouldn't be complaining because YOU ARE GETTING PAID!!!!! All that hard work you're complaining about pays off with money, while my hard work pays off with a crappy ''education''. I don't care about that, I want money! Your education will determine just how much you'll get paid later on. It's like the multiplier of your salary: on itself, it's not much, but give it an attribute (such as a constant representing the default salary) and it will end up in large amounts. I'm not sure that's true in some cases... It depends on the source of employment itself, really... You could be in some high paid job that doesn't require a lot of "brainpower" or education... In turn you could be an 'eternal' student, always going to uni/college to 'further your education', and you might end up in a really poor job... Most of the time I think it's a case of "who you know", not "what you know", as my current job would seem to confirm. I knew the people who worked there beforehand. I got the job through their knowledge of who I was... and that I was looking for something. All I knew before I started working there was that I could use a computer - training has gotten me to where I am now... *shrug* It depends on varying situations. That's not to say I think school is utterly pointless, I just think we should have been given more choice as to the subjects we were able to study, or be taught things that related more to "real life". I've learnt more about things by being out of school than I did while I was there. Much of my schooling was helpful on a social scale more than anything else... Just my thoughts *shrug*
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Post by Zyppora on Aug 7, 2005 2:53:58 GMT -5
Well, you have a point, Sailor Mercury, but you can't deny that the higher your degree, the more jobs will be suited for you, including those that give you responsibilities/tasks that require your knowledge/intelligence. And in most cases, you get paid more for such efforts. Whether or not you know the right pplz at a company will be a moot point if you don't meet any of the requirements of the job. And I'm not talkin about jobs like flippin burgers at Burger King or restocking/checking out pplz at a supermarket, I'm talkin about jobs like engineering or medical stuff. Jobs with responsibilities. In those jobs, a higher degree usually means a higher salary.
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Post by Tom Lincoln on Aug 7, 2005 10:12:24 GMT -5
I say, Get a good education, just in cause you need it someday. Even if you want to be a NFL player,MLB player,or in the NBA, it still good cause you might get injured, and if you have a high education you can get another job that pays a lot of money.
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Post by hawksgirl19 on Aug 7, 2005 20:03:22 GMT -5
I agree w/ Tom on that one.
What's funny about the major thing is that just because you major in one thing, doesn't mean that you can't do something else. In the bathrooms at school, they would up "potty papers" for the students to read while they were doing their business & one of them talked about not limiting yourself to just your degree's specialty. It also gave examples of people, their majors, & what they are currently doing. Like, the owner or something of Hewlett Packard was some sort of philosophical major & she's definitely NOT doing something philosophical. There was also some pointers about what a lot of employers look for in people, like communication skills, & ability to work with others. Obviously there are certain occupations where you NEED a degree (like being a doctor or something), but there are also a lot of jobs that you don't.
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Post by Tom Lincoln on Aug 7, 2005 22:53:36 GMT -5
An education wont make someone a business person, just a better one. A businessperson is the best career to be in, cause it covers every single industry. To be good at that,you must not learn it, but already know it. Where I live, most schools are more interested in sports then academics.
Even if you dropped out of highschool, ten years ago you can still get a GED, go to a community college, then a Big Universtity.
Sucess is 30% desire, 30% talent, and 40% education.
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Post by Zyppora on Aug 8, 2005 2:08:32 GMT -5
Maybe I should recommend to the both of you to watch the movie Cocktail. It's a pretty good movie with Tom Cruise (for all you ladies out there). At some point, Cruise is looking for a job, he's been in the military for quite awhile and never got a degree. Result: rejections wherever he applied.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Aug 8, 2005 5:35:33 GMT -5
What makes you think I like that freak? LOL! Anyway. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't try to do well at school, far from it. I was just pointing out the other side of the track. I did well in music and English, and yet I'm now in a totally different field (of course I don't enjoy it, but the job itself is quite good pay-wise...) I also did fairly well in Design, but I want to look into Counselling as a different option. I don't want to be stuck in payroll for the rest of my life *shudders*...
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Post by Zyppora on Aug 8, 2005 7:05:00 GMT -5
Well, of course, it doesn't matter WHAT you do, as long as you get a degree to back you up. You may get a job right now without a degree, but when you're 40 and they sack you, try 'n get a decent job then.
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Post by hawksgirl19 on Aug 8, 2005 15:37:36 GMT -5
Maybe I should recommend to the both of you to watch the movie Cocktail. It's a pretty good movie with Tom Cruise (for all you ladies out there). At some point, Cruise is looking for a job, he's been in the military for quite awhile and never got a degree. Result: rejections wherever he applied. And who says everything in movies happens in real life? They're MOVIES, not reality. Granted, there is the possibility of something like Cruise's sitch happening, but it doesn't always happen that way.
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Post by Tom Lincoln on Aug 8, 2005 16:51:16 GMT -5
Im sure something like that happened at least once
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Post by Zyppora on Aug 8, 2005 23:55:33 GMT -5
Maybe I should recommend to the both of you to watch the movie Cocktail. It's a pretty good movie with Tom Cruise (for all you ladies out there). At some point, Cruise is looking for a job, he's been in the military for quite awhile and never got a degree. Result: rejections wherever he applied. And who says everything in movies happens in real life? They're MOVIES, not reality. Granted, there is the possibility of something like Cruise's sitch happening, but it doesn't always happen that way.Not only a possibility, but it's a probability. I'm not saying everything that happens in movies, happens in real life, but I am saying that movies are based on truth. They don't put impossibilities in movies (except those sci-fi movies, etc). And if you don't wanna know about the movie, then at least know what I'm trying to tell you: get a degree to back you up in life.
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Post by Tom Lincoln on Aug 9, 2005 7:27:54 GMT -5
Sci-fi isnt 100% fiction. I think I heard of that movie before, Is that the one where he was a marine and loses both of his legs.
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