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Post by Zyppora on May 31, 2005 9:16:00 GMT -5
Hawk1, that wasn a good idea misplacing your anger on someonelse. I learned the hard way that people wont like you if you misplace your anger towards them, and it does kill friendships. Keeping this in mind, we read on: Zyppora, you obviously dont know what combined mental disabilities does to certain human funtions do you? people may get hired for being slightly retarded, but an autistic is deemed either too dangerous or not functional enough for a job. I'll need social security to stay alive and I'll need to sign forms, maybe do a test of ability, all that sh*t. Talk about misplaced anger. Do you know why you're in such a shithole right now, and why your karma (which seems to mean the world to you) is so low? It's because you're such a goddamn pessimist. You don't even seem to try. All you can do is bitch at pplz and be agressive. I don't care if you use your disabilities to hide behind. You know what I've learned? If you put your mind to it, you can achieve it. That's what I've learned. to whoever keeps giving my these smites, reveal thyself! Heh, right. Like that would happen if you keep it up like this.
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Post by yatenkou on May 31, 2005 9:24:18 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly with Zyppora.
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Post by Creshosk on May 31, 2005 9:58:53 GMT -5
NOTE: Ferenheight 9/11 was actually a documentary beleive it or not. none of it was a lie Actually it was a lie. Michael Moore's editing technique leaves out the truth. Fahrenheit 9/11 begins on election night 2000. We are first shown Al Gore rocking on stage with famous musicians and a high-spirited crowd. The conspicuous sign on stage reads "Florida Victory." Moore creates the impression that Gore was celebrating his victory in Florida. Moore's voiceover claims, "And little Stevie Wonder, he seemed so happy, like a miracle had taken place." The verb tense of past perfect ("had taken") furthers the impression that the election has been completed. Actually, the rally took place in the early hours of election day, before polls had even opened. Gore did campaign in Florida on election day, but went home to Tennessee to await the results. The "Florida Victory" sign reflected Gore’s hopes, not any actual election results. The film shows CBS and CNN calling Florida for Al Gore. According to the narrator, "Then something called the Fox News Channel called the election in favor of the other guy….All of a sudden the other networks said, 'Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true.'" We then see NBC anchor Tom Brokaw stating, "All of us networks made a mistake and projected Florida in the Al Gore column. It was our mistake." Moore thus creates the false impression that the networks withdrew their claim about Gore winning Florida when they heard that Fox said that Bush won Florida. In fact, the networks which called Florida for Gore did so early in the evening—before polls had even closed in the Florida panhandle, which is part of the Central Time Zone. NBC called Florida for Gore at 7:49:40 p.m., Eastern Time. This was 10 minutes before polls closed in the Florida panhandle. Thirty seconds later, CBS called Florida for Gore. And at 7:52 p.m., Fox called Florida for Gore. Moore never lets the audience know that Fox was among the networks which made the error of calling Florida for Gore prematurely. Then at 8:02 p.m., ABC called Florida for Gore. Only ABC had waited until the Florida polls were closed. About an hour before the polls closed in panhandle Florida, the networks called the U.S. Senate race in favor of the Democratic candidate. The networks seriously compounded the problem because from 6-7 Central Time, they repeatedly announced that polls had closed in Florida--even though polls were open in the panhandle. The false announcements that the polls were closed, as well as the premature calls (the Presidential race ten minutes early; the Senate race an hour early), may have cost Bush thousands of votes from the conservative panhandle, as discouraged last-minute voters heard that their state had already been decided; some last-minute voters on their way to the polling place turned around and went home. Other voters who were waiting in line left the polling place. In Florida, as elsewhere, voters who have arrived at the polling place before closing time often end up voting after closing time, because of long lines. The conventional wisdom of politics is that supporters of the losing candidate are most likely to give up on voting when they hear that their side has already lost. Thus, on election night 1980, when incumbent President Jimmy Carter gave a concession speech while polls were still open on the west coast, the early concession was blamed for costing the Democrats several Congressional seats in the West, such as that of 20-year incumbent James Corman. The fact that all the networks had declared Reagan a landslide winner while west coast voting was still in progress was also blamed for Democratic losses in the West; Congress even held hearings about prohibiting the disclosure of exit polls before voting had ended in the any of the 48 contiguous states. Even if the premature television calls affected all potential voters equally, the effect was to reduce Republican votes significantly, because the Florida panhandle is a Republican stronghold. Most of Central Time Zone Florida is in the 1st Congressional District, which is known as the "Redneck Riviera." In that district, Bob Dole beat Bill Clinton by 69,000 votes in 1996, even though Clinton won the state by 300,000 votes. So depress overall turnout in the panhandle, and you will necessarily depress more Republican than Democratic votes. A 2001 study by John Lott suggested that the early calls cost Bush at least 7,500 votes, and perhaps many more. Another study reported that the networks reduced panhandle turn-out by about 19,000 votes, costing Bush about 12,000 votes and Gore about 7,000 votes. At 10:00 p.m., which networks took the lead in retracting the premature Florida win for Gore? They were CNN and CBS, not Fox. (The two networks were using a shared Decision Team.) In fact, Fox did not retract its claim that Gore had won Florida until 2 a.m.--four hours after other networks had withdrawn the call. Over four hours later, at 2:16 a.m., Fox projected Bush as the Florida winner, as did all the other networks by 2:20 a.m. At 3:59 a.m., CBS took the lead in retracting the Florida call for Bush. All the other networks, including Fox, followed the CBS lead within eight minutes. That the networks arrived at similar conclusions within a short period of time is not surprising, since they were all using the same data from the Voter News Service. (Mason, et al. "CBS News Coverage.") As the CBS timeline details, throughout the evening all networks used VNS data to call states, even though VNS had not called the state; sometimes the network calls were made hours ahead of the VNS call. Moore’s editing technique of the election night segment is typical of his style: all the video clips are real clips, and nothing he says is, narrowly speaking, false. But notice how he says, "Then something called the Fox News Channel called the election in favor of the other guy…" The impression created is that the Fox call of Florida for Bush came soon after the CBS/CNN calls of Florida for Gore, and that Fox caused the other networks to change ("All of a sudden the other networks said, 'Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true.'") This is the essence of the Moore technique: cleverly blending half-truths to deceive the viewer.
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Post by hawksgirl19 on May 31, 2005 11:24:20 GMT -5
Raptor's right though, it depends on the individual personality of the girl as to how she's going to react to something. Some girls love to spar, others do hit playfully. There's nothing wrong with it. . . but I don't see Makoto as really being the type to do more than to playfully hit a friend. Not hard mind you just a tap. It is true. I know Hawk & I have tickle matches (even the "tickle monster" is used ). Sometimes, I'll tap is face on both sides w/ my hands super fast & other times, I'll punch him in the stomach lightly (all this is just playing around). Although, when I do start to punch him in the stomach, he tells me to hit harder to see how hard I can hit him. <---- Proof that girls do hit guys outta fun & not harmful.watch Farenheight 9/11, and you'll see! that wasnt staged, it s a documentary, actrual footage taken for historical research reasons, and some comedy was thrown in to lighten it so you wouldnt go killing someone in cold blood. the humor is timed proporly as I've heard. You have got to be kidding me. . . that was not a documentary, as documentaries are truthful. Just to settle this petty arguement that both parties are going overboard on, I went to the Internet Movie Database & got the plot outline. Here it is: Plot Outline: Michael Moore's view on what happened to the United States after September 11; and how the Bush Administration allegedly used the tragic event to push forward its agenda for unjust wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. That in itself says that it's not fact, just someone's opinion. Oh! And Raptor, if you disbelieve even still, just go to the site I found it at: www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/ . Even when you expand the plot outline they have, it still indicates the movie was still opinion.
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Post by Zyppora on May 31, 2005 12:36:13 GMT -5
Raptor's right though, it depends on the individual personality of the girl as to how she's going to react to something. Some girls love to spar, others do hit playfully. There's nothing wrong with it. . . but I don't see Makoto as really being the type to do more than to playfully hit a friend. Not hard mind you just a tap. It is true. I know Hawk & I have tickle matches (even the "tickle monster" is used ). Sometimes, I'll tap is face on both sides w/ my hands super fast & other times, I'll punch him in the stomach lightly (all this is just playing around). Although, when I do start to punch him in the stomach, he tells me to hit harder to see how hard I can hit him. <---- Proof that girls do hit guys outta fun & not harmful.Yes, but Raptor said it was something he should 'endure'. I don't think you 'n Hawk go quite as far as for him to have to 'endure' what you're doing to him. Sure, tickling, but not the more harmful stuff like hitting him in the stomach.
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Post by Creshosk on May 31, 2005 12:46:45 GMT -5
It is true. I know Hawk & I have tickle matches (even the "tickle monster" is used ). Sometimes, I'll tap is face on both sides w/ my hands super fast & other times, I'll punch him in the stomach lightly (all this is just playing around). Although, when I do start to punch him in the stomach, he tells me to hit harder to see how hard I can hit him. <---- Proof that girls do hit guys outta fun & not harmful. Yes, but Raptor said it was something he should 'endure'. I don't think you 'n Hawk go quite as far as for him to have to 'endure' what you're doing to him. Sure, tickling, but not the more harmful stuff like hitting him in the stomach. I think raptor was talking about sparring.
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Post by RAPTOR 9:48 on May 31, 2005 17:33:43 GMT -5
[shadow=gold,left,350]DUH![/shadow] [shadow=gold,left,350]Sparring is a great way to keep fit, and consumes energy that would in some cases be used on misplaced anger, and to be capable of enduring pain is quite simple, you just have to build up your durability by taking hits. I clobbered myself over the head with books and allowed fellow classmates to bash my head in with trashcans(I still have a dent in a can in a choice classroom) ;D and it was kinda funny that I didnt feel anything from getting clobbered in the head. lol *laughing* enough high school memories, on to the present, but yeah, being capable of enduring pain on a certain level helps when sparring. and besides, I would never hit a girl(except my idiot sister if she asks for money as she NEVER pays anyone back, she has tested my patience for the last time!), especially Mako-chan. but I guess it would make things a one sided spar huh?[/shadow]
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Post by hawksgirl19 on May 31, 2005 18:20:17 GMT -5
[shadow=gold,left,350]DUH![/shadow] [shadow=gold,left,350] Sparring is a great way to keep fit, and consumes energy that would in some cases be used on misplaced anger, and to be capable of enduring pain is quite simple, you just have to build up your durability by taking hits. I clobbered myself over the head with books and allowed fellow classmates to bash my head in with trashcans(I still have a dent in a can in a choice classroom) ;D and it was kinda funny that I didnt feel anything from getting clobbered in the head. lol *laughing* enough high school memories, on to the present, but yeah, being capable of enduring pain on a certain level helps when sparring. and besides, I would never hit a girl(except my idiot sister if she asks for money as she NEVER pays anyone back, she has tested my patience for the last time!), especially Mako-chan. but I guess it would make things a one sided spar huh?[/shadow] Ok, first off: it is NOT okay to MAKE yourself be able to endure pain. Sure, it may come in handy at a later time, but it's STUPID!
Secondly, it is NEVER and I do mean NEVER okay to hit a girl. I don't care how annoying, patient tried, etc. she is to you, you NEVER hit her. I feel sorry for your sister that she has to be stuck with a brother like you that WOULD hit her. Wrestling or whatever is different 'cause it's done out of fun, but hitting a girl out of anger is ABUSE. If you do wind up hitting her, don't be bragging about it or anything on this site. A true gentleman would NEVER hit a female.
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Post by Zyppora on May 31, 2005 22:25:00 GMT -5
DUH! Sparring is a great way to keep fit, and consumes energy that would in some cases be used on misplaced anger, and to be capable of enduring pain is quite simple, you just have to build up your durability by taking hits. I clobbered myself over the head with books and allowed fellow classmates to bash my head in with trashcans(I still have a dent in a can in a choice classroom) ;D and it was kinda funny that I didnt feel anything from getting clobbered in the head. lol *laughing* enough high school memories, on to the present, but yeah, being capable of enduring pain on a certain level helps when sparring. and besides, I would never hit a girl(except my idiot sister if she asks for money as she NEVER pays anyone back, she has tested my patience for the last time!), especially Mako-chan. but I guess it would make things a one sided spar huh? And there you wonder why you're disabled huh? You must not be the smartest of the lot. Ok, first off: it is NOT okay to MAKE yourself be able to endure pain. Sure, it may come in handy at a later time, but it's STUPID!
Secondly, it is NEVER and I do mean NEVER okay to hit a girl. I don't care how annoying, patient tried, etc. she is to you, you NEVER hit her. I feel sorry for your sister that she has to be stuck with a brother like you that WOULD hit her. Wrestling or whatever is different 'cause it's done out of fun, but hitting a girl out of anger is ABUSE. If you do wind up hitting her, don't be bragging about it or anything on this site. A true gentleman would NEVER hit a female. What happened to emancipation here? If a girl hits me for no apparent reason, you can be sure she won't be doing it again, because I'm gonna hit her back the second time. Screw being a gentleman, abuse goes male->female just as it goes female->male.
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Post by hawksgirl19 on May 31, 2005 22:48:15 GMT -5
What happened to emancipation here? If a girl hits me for no apparent reason, you can be sure she won't be doing it again, because I'm gonna hit her back the second time. Screw being a gentleman, abuse goes male->female just as it goes female->male. Allow me to rephrase: if a chick comes at a guy with the full intention of hurting him [not like a love tap or w/ the guy's compliance (wrestling, tickling, etc)], then by all means guys, hit her back! If she is simply just annoying you or trying your patience, then hitting her period is considered abuse. I mean, Zyp, would you go & hit me if I annoyed you or pissed you off? (& were in the same room with you?)
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Post by Zyppora on May 31, 2005 23:47:27 GMT -5
What happened to emancipation here? If a girl hits me for no apparent reason, you can be sure she won't be doing it again, because I'm gonna hit her back the second time. Screw being a gentleman, abuse goes male->female just as it goes female->male. Allow me to rephrase: if a chick comes at a guy with the full intention of hurting him [not like a love tap or w/ the guy's compliance (wrestling, tickling, etc)], then by all means guys, hit her back! If she is simply just annoying you or trying your patience, then hitting her period is considered abuse. I mean, Zyp, would you go & hit me if I annoyed you or pissed you off? (& were in the same room with you?) Well, no. As I hardly get violent of verbal abuse. But if you just happened to walk up to me 'n hit me, I'd say 'What the hell was that for', and if you'd hit me back, then I won't be held responsible for what I'd do.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Jun 1, 2005 0:05:54 GMT -5
As long as it's not in the face or another sensitive area, heh. I used to hit my brother a lot when I was younger, and I feel guilty about it now. I was a violent child LOL! (I didn't hit him in the face though, mind you)... I think just a light punch in the arm is ok, but a full on smack in the face is a bit over the top.
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Post by Zyppora on Jun 1, 2005 0:36:13 GMT -5
Well, where it aim depends on how much I wanna hurt the one to be hit. Usually I go for the stomach area, as it's quite effective and it'll take your opponent out for a good few seconds.
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Post by Sailor Mercury on Jun 1, 2005 0:51:19 GMT -5
Aah right... I hit my brother really hard in the back once... That was not good. I got into shiteloads of trouble for that, and yeah, rightly so... Man... I was a little b!tch in those days I'm a lot calmer now. Or is that indifferent? Oh well
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Post by Zyppora on Jun 1, 2005 1:05:07 GMT -5
Heheh, I used to be mildly violent. When I was about 12 or 13 or so, I once hit my brother in the back with a baseball bat. Damn, that was wrong.
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