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Post by Sailor Venus on Mar 23, 2005 21:52:20 GMT -5
Note:Manga Exclusive
1)Ok even though this is manga exclusive (i'm only talking about manga), remember in the R movie when Sailor Moon died? Why did she die? Well it was because she released too much of the Ginzuishou's power, even though Mamoru and her friends were there to support her (that's why they always power up so they can support Sailor Moon) the power was WAY too much for her to carry.
Think of the Ginzuishou as a weight. She had
1)Herself (Classic)
2)Her love of Mamoru (R, S)
3)EVERYONE'S power=Holy Grail(S, SuperS, StarS)
all those things to support her. And slowly, she upgrades in Sailor Moon forms.
So what I don't understand is the third one(notice how she slowly gains strength from herself, to Mamoru, to now, the Holy Grail (the unity of the Senshi).
So...what would happen if Super Sailor Moon went up against Eternal Sailor Moon. I mean you instictively say that Eternal Sailor Moon would win...but why? Their support is the same!
Super Sailor Moon--
1)Herself (duh)
2)Love of Mamoru (ya)
3)Holy Grail*(uh huh its there)
Eternal Sailor Moon
1)Herself (duh)
2)Love of Mamoru (ya)
3)Holy Grail(yup)
They're support is the same!!!
1)Ginzuishous are the same; and plus, they both have infinite power there.
2)Mamoru's there
3)Her friends support IN the energy of the Holy Grail is there
What makes Eternal Sailor Moon stronger than Super Sailor Moon?
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Post by Zyppora on Mar 24, 2005 2:41:21 GMT -5
Well, I don't think either Super Sailor Moon or Eternal Sailor Moon would be stronger (considering your theory), but Super Sailor Moon would win a duel, mainly because her Moon Spiral Heart Attack takes less time than the Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss or the Silver Moon Crystal Power Kiss (forgive me if I have either of these wrong, it's been awhile since I saw Stars).
Ohw, and you say you were gonna take about the manga, and in the next line you mention the R movie.
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Post by Creshosk on Mar 24, 2005 3:15:45 GMT -5
What makes Eternal Sailor Moon stronger than Super Sailor Moon? Unlocked potential. You can have all the power in the world as potential, but until its available you might as well not even have it. For example we all have the potential to make Sailor Moon art that is incredible. But until you discover how to tap into that potential it's like not even having it. |
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Post by Sailor Venus on Mar 24, 2005 16:32:01 GMT -5
Zyppora I said "even though" lol
And...hm...I was thinking more along the lines of a "final battle" situation where Sailor Moon isn't using her regular attacks but the Ginzuishou.
Sailor Moon taps into Ginzuishou energy with how much "rage" she feels. If Super Sailor Moon and Eternal Sailor Moon were stuck in the same situation, shouldn't they be feeling the same amount of rage? (AKA They should be able to channel the same amount of Ginzuishou energy)
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Post by Zyppora on Mar 25, 2005 7:22:03 GMT -5
Zyppora I said "even though" lol And...hm...I was thinking more along the lines of a "final battle" situation where Sailor Moon isn't using her regular attacks but the Ginzuishou. Sailor Moon taps into Ginzuishou energy with how much "rage" she feels. If Super Sailor Moon and Eternal Sailor Moon were stuck in the same situation, shouldn't they be feeling the same amount of rage? (AKA They should be able to channel the same amount of Ginzuishou energy) Heh, sorriz, must have missed that (which happens more often when it's early in the morning). Anywayz, if SSM and ESM were to only use the Ginzuishou with the same amount of emotions (I think rage doesn't really fit in here), wouldn't they be equally powerful? |
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Post by Sailor Venus on Mar 26, 2005 21:15:47 GMT -5
*smacks forehead* lol that's what I'm saying! Hahas. So why would Eternal Sailor Moon be considered stronger?
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Post by Zyppora on Mar 27, 2005 6:50:22 GMT -5
*smacks forehead* lol that's what I'm saying! Hahas. So why would Eternal Sailor Moon be considered stronger? Because she has more EXP Points? (Experience) |
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Post by D'lo on Mar 27, 2005 11:30:28 GMT -5
lol That's exactly how I thought they got stronger other than the extra power they received.
The strongest Sailor Moon would be Eternal Sailor Moo in my opinion. However, I wonder if she would've prevailed over Beryl, the Doom Tree, Nemesis, Kaguya, Kasenian, and the Death Busters sooner as Eternal Sailor Moon rather than the regular Sailor Moon and Super Sailor Moon. As it is the strongest, I wonder if only she became Eternal a lot sooner. Oh well, I like it the way it is anyway. If she would have become Eternal sooner, the series wouldn't be as good, ne?
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Post by Sailor Venus on Mar 27, 2005 12:22:26 GMT -5
I think this rift happened when Takeuchi extended the Sailor Moon series.
Think about it, if she ended it at S, then Super Sailor Moon would be the strongest BECAUSE she has the final supporting element. Her friends power embedded in the Holy Grail (plus her love of Mamoru and herself).
then she extended it and made Eternal Sailor Moon...which also has the Ginzuishou and is also supported by a Holy Grail, her love for Mamoru, and herself. Damn wait a minute...Doesn't Eternal Sailor Moon have the Golden Crystal too? XD o crap I just answered my own question...
So I guess Eternal Sailor Moon would be the stronger over Super Sailor Moon...
but how did the manga explain Sailor Cosmos? What makes Sailor Cosmos, Sailor Cosmos? Did she get any new upgrading supports?
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Post by D'lo on Mar 27, 2005 12:52:01 GMT -5
To answer your question, Elios guards the Golden Crystal. Sailor Chibi Moon was the only one who was able to use the Golden Crystal, but she did it together with Sailor Moon.
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Post by Creshosk on Mar 27, 2005 16:38:14 GMT -5
Heh, this talk reminds me of something. Mamoru is the Sailor Senshi of Earth
The four star seeds of the Inner Senshi floated behind Galaxia's throne with hundreds of other star seeds. Eternal Sailor Moon's eyes fell upon one gold star seed.
"No...Mamo-chan," Eternal Sailor Moon whispered and Sailor Starfighter gasped. The star seed was Mamoru's.
"You have a good eye," Sailor Galaxia said, bringing the gold star seed in front of her. "This is the golden star seed for this planet. It belonged to the Sailor Senshi of Earth."
"If that's Mamo-chan's star seed, then Mamo-chan is..."
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Post by D'lo on Mar 27, 2005 19:20:07 GMT -5
You could have said something about it being a spoiler.  I haven't seen that episode yet. I look forward to it, though. |
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Post by Sailor Venus on Mar 29, 2005 0:16:56 GMT -5
In the manga, the Golden Crystal was inside Mamoru's body and Sailor Moon help him..."find it" like discover his power. When all the senshi were charging up to attack Nehelania, there was the usual Moon power charging up, the Sailor Senshi yelling out their planet powers, but IN ADDITION (to what was already done before in the Infinity Arc) the senshi called upon the powers of their castles and THEN (i think the most important) is that Mamoru said something like "power to Sailor Moon!" while holding his Golden Crystal. So, I think Mamoru's Earth Senshi powers are added in to create Eternal Sailor Moon. ^^ (its totally different the anime where, they just like charged up and she became Eternal Sailor Moon).
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Post by Zyppora on Mar 29, 2005 2:17:21 GMT -5
Well, I can't exactly remember what made Eternal Sailor Moon into Eternal Sailor Moon, but I can explain the Sailor Cosmos change. We all see Chibi Chibi hoppin around the Stars series. When she dies (did she die?), she changes into a sword (I think), and this sword is given to Sailor Moon, who changes into Sailor Cosmos (though this name is never spoken in the series). It is also the sword with which she beats Chaos.
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Post by Sailor Venus on Mar 29, 2005 20:57:14 GMT -5
Zyppora your talking about the anime. (well duh). In the anime, a pun on Sailor Cosmos "might" have appeared (in this shadowy figure) but its impossible that Sailor Cosmos herself actually did because Chibi Chibi in the anime is defined as being Galaxia's star seed. How is a star seed a senshi? How is a star seed the "ultimate form of Sailor Moon"? (Therefore, Sailor Cosmos does not exist in the anime. Maybe that shadowy figure was the mature version of Chibi Chibi).
But I know how Sailor Moon became Eternal Sailor Moon when I glanced through some manga. It was that darn Golden Crystal that made her power up.
I'm still confused about the manga explanation for Sailor Cosmos. The Mixx version was so damn confusing. I know she's the ultimate form but...is she like the great great grand daughter of Sailor Moon (it said she "came from the future to correct a mistake")? Or is she like actually Usagi? And what mistake? (Not fighting the Chaos dude?? XD)
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I haven't seen that episode yet. I look forward to it, though.