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Post by Creshosk on May 9, 2005 16:57:38 GMT -5
If i do recall correctly, I said several times that this is simply SPECULATION not the god given truth. My cat goes into heat EVERY MONTH and doesn't have kittens. We don't watch Luna every day - perhaps Usagi knows better and keeps her locked into the house. Again, there could also be mystical forces at work. Once again (maybe you'll read this this time) my theory is purely a speculation. It's really amazing how hard you're fighting to maintain the charade of this already disproven hypothesis. They do not have Earth cat biology. "heat" is not like a once a day thing. It can go on for weeks, as well you should know. And she is obviously not locked up all the time as she is often seen outside when Usagi is away. I personally think your attitude is rather unbecoming as Gmod.
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Post by yatenkou on May 9, 2005 17:01:09 GMT -5
It's really amazing how hard you're fighting to maintain the charade of this already disproven hypothesis. It's a wonder how many times I must repeat myself. I am continuing my speculations because you are foolishly (and rudely might I add) putting yourself on a pedastal. I am simply throwing out theories. You are simply being rude. That's the end of the story.
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Post by Creshosk on May 9, 2005 17:05:03 GMT -5
It's a wonder how many times I must repeat myself. I am continuing my speculations because you are foolishly (and rudely might I add) putting yourself on a pedastal. I am simply throwing out theories. You are simply being rude. That's the end of the story. You really don't have much room to become irritated over having to repeat yourself. I'm having to repeat myself as well. Your theories are invalid. Your speculations are false. I'm not putting myself on a pedistal any more than you are. Because appearently you're so high up on your own pedistal that you can go against preestablished fact, logic, reason and accountability. They don't have earth cat physiology.
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Post by yatenkou on May 9, 2005 17:22:41 GMT -5
You really don't have much room to become irritated over having to repeat yourself. I'm having to repeat myself as well. Your theories are invalid. Your speculations are false. I'm not putting myself on a pedistal any more than you are. Because appearently you're so high up on your own pedistal that you can go against preestablished fact, logic, reason and accountability. They don't have earth cat physiology. Speculations can't be false. They are not hypotheses, they are not GUESSing at anything. Speculation is an attempt to establish additional truths in an already established counterfactual reality. You are claiming to be Naoko Takeuchi and to know what is true and false in a magical fictional world where there is no law or rule - preestablished fact, logic, reason or accountability. I'm having fun, you claim to know what the author thinks - who is on the "pedistal"?
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Post by Creshosk on May 9, 2005 19:10:54 GMT -5
Speculations can't be false. Speculationnoun: a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence) (Example: "Speculations about the outcome of the election") Hypothesisnoun: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena (Example: " A scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory") "I speculate that the reson that Ami has pink hair is because snowbunnies can't survive in snow." That speculation is wrong, speculations can be wrong. [quote You are claiming to be Naoko Takeuchi and to know what is true and false in a magical fictional world where there is no law or rule - preestablished fact, logic, reason or accountability. I do not claim to be Naoko Takeuchi. but I'm not the one that's making claims of her characters that goes against what she has presented. I'm having fun, you claim to know what the author thinks - who is on the "pedistal"? I am using facts and evidence. I'm not making up things about the author's character. I also note that you are the one who started this discussion off into something less than friendly.
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Post by yatenkou on May 9, 2005 20:06:40 GMT -5
Or it's also possible that they existed in different forms on Mau and have just adapted the cat form for earth. Which would technically make them have cat biology. If you do remember correctly, Artemis and Luna have human forms, so perhaps they came to earth and decided to change into cats. The shadow of Sailor Mau in the manga also appeared as a human, though the argument for the Sailor Luna phenomena could be made on this issue. However it could really go either way, It's an open ended question that Naoko left unanswered. One can only go on theories in that case. I like to believe that Luna and Artemis are in cat like physiologies which may explain some of their weird habits, likes and dislikes. Hmmm i fail to see how that falls under the category of hostile. I also see where I said it could really go either way - where i conceded that my theory could be wrong. You however decided to take a sarcastic tone. But that is not the issue here. As i stated before, I'm having fun with ideas - you are trying to create the logic of a world that is not yours. Is it my fault you are getting angry with me because I'm creating ideas of an open fantasy world that is controlled by someone who is silent on a situation? If the facts do not add up to your account of things, that's grand. However I refuse to stand by and let someone try to condescend me for my intial ideas and speculations. It is my opinion, and though you may have your own opinions and facts that do go against my ideas the fact of the matter is that it is totally absurd for you to proclaim godship over a world that is yours. You have facts - nothing more. This world is a fantasy, Naoko Takeuchi's fantasy in which she has complete control over. She may present facts - how she chooses to use them however is her own choice, not yours. You cannot have black and white thinking in fantasy otherwise it becomes no fun!! This is all I have to say on this matter, as this argument seems to no longer apply to Luna and Artemis I would suggest that you can continue it with me elsewhere. As a final thought, I really do think that Luna and Artemis might have an additional child besides Diana sometime in the future. After all we still have names associated with the moon left (Cynthia for example), but as I originally stated that is purely left up to fan speculation.
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Post by Creshosk on May 9, 2005 21:00:02 GMT -5
Hmmm i fail to see how that falls under the category of hostile. I personally think your attitude is rather unbecoming as Gmod. But that is not the issue here. As i stated before, I'm having fun with ideas - you are trying to create the logic of a world that is not yours. Is it my fault you are getting angry with me because I'm creating ideas of an open fantasy world that is controlled by someone who is silent on a situation? If the facts do not add up to your account of things, that's grand. I'm getting tired of your hypocritical point of veiw. You say that I'm trying to make a logical world that is not mine. This is not true. I'm simply stating the things of her world. Facts. YOU are trying to create your own fantasy world in a world that is not yours. I'm stating the world as she has it. You are trying to create something that goes against something the author established. I'm going with what the author established. If naoko said her world was some where between blue and green, then it does not make sense to say that you think her world is a shade of red. Because what you say goes against what has been established. Your creations your ideas go against HER world. However I refuse to stand by and let someone try to condescend me for my intial ideas and speculations. It is my opinion, and though you may have your own opinions and facts that do go against my ideas the fact of the matter is that it is totally absurd for you to proclaim godship over a world that is yours. Read your own words back to yourself. Think about what you are doing. I'm stating her world as she has it. You are trying to create something that goes against her world. And then hypocritically claim that I'm proclaiming godship over her world. I'm doing no such thing. You have facts - nothing more. Facts that Naoko has presented to us, that you seem to be eager to disregard. I now officially ask that you stop spreading false information about the series.
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Post by yatenkou on May 9, 2005 21:34:57 GMT -5
I'm getting tired of your hypocritical point of veiw. You say that I'm trying to make a logical world that is not mine. This is not true. I'm simply stating the things of her world. Facts. YOU are trying to create your own fantasy world in a world that is not yours. I'm stating the world as she has it. You are trying to create something that goes against something the author established. I'm going with what the author established. If naoko said her world was some where between blue and green, then it does not make sense to say that you think her world is a shade of red. Because what you say goes against what has been established. Your creations your ideas go against HER world. Read your own words back to yourself. Think about what you are doing. I'm stating her world as she has it. You are trying to create something that goes against her world. And then hypocritically claim that I'm proclaiming godship over her world. I'm doing no such thing. Facts that Naoko has presented to us, that you seem to be eager to disregard. I now officially ask that you stop spreading false information about the series. And I under board rules will stop posting about a topic that is not related to the board it is on. If you wish to continue PM me or AIM me. This board is for Luna and Artemis, not this argument. You are a Gmod you should be aware of this.
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