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Post by nekosenshi on Dec 6, 2006 15:14:35 GMT -5
I don't think Usagi was in love with Seiya to begin with! She felt some affection but she really missed Mamoru terribly.
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Post by Zyppora on Dec 6, 2006 15:24:38 GMT -5
engineer: which part do you not understand: Usagi - is - ONLY - interested - the - male - form nekosenshi: She was definately interested though. And love is a tricky thing when you're 16. Saying you 'love' someone could mean anything at that age.
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Post by engineer on Dec 6, 2006 15:46:10 GMT -5
[q] engineer: which part do you not understand: Usagi - is - ONLY - interested - the - male - form[/q] And as I said before, since Seiya's true form is a female it would make her bisexual. Whether she is interested or not, in anime canon, Starlights can toggle between male and female. Falling in love with a person who is half male part of the time and female part of the time would be categorized as bisexual. In manga canon Usagi would be lesbian. In either canon if Usagi wanted to get with Seiya, she would have to come to terms with Seiya's female aspect. Just like Usagi and Mamoru came to terms with their respective forms - past, present, and future.
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Post by Zyppora on Dec 7, 2006 3:12:18 GMT -5
And do you think Usagi would have wanted to come to terms with Seiya's female aspect? I don't think so.
Usagi not interested in females -> Usagi is NOT lesbian, NOR bisexual.
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Post by yumecosmos on Dec 16, 2006 23:34:07 GMT -5
Er... even if Usagi liked the female Seiya she would still be bisexual, since Usagi has obviously been attracted to Mamoru. To say she hasn't for the previous four seasons is just denial, regardless of who you think she should be with in the end. She is also attracted to Motoki in the first season.
As for the disco episode (181, right?) I never saw Usagi agreeing to do anything with Seiya. She went into the room with him, then started to freak out because she thought it was "dangerous" with just the two of them, so admittedly her thoughts were going in that direction. But I don't think that means she wanted to. Just because she's thinking "OMG is he hitting on me?!?!1" doesn't mean she's ready to succumb to his hypothetical advances.
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Post by Zyppora on Dec 17, 2006 5:20:18 GMT -5
Er... even if Usagi liked the female Seiya she would still be bisexual, since Usagi has obviously been attracted to Mamoru. To say she hasn't for the previous four seasons is just denial, regardless of who you think she should be with in the end. She is also attracted to Motoki in the first season. Uuh, this isn't directed at me, is it? It doesn't look it. As for the disco episode (181, right?) I never saw Usagi agreeing to do anything with Seiya. She went into the room with him, then started to freak out because she thought it was "dangerous" with just the two of them, so admittedly her thoughts were going in that direction. But I don't think that means she wanted to. Just because she's thinking "OMG is he hitting on me?!?!1" doesn't mean she's ready to succumb to his hypothetical advances. Okay, here's a little fact (disregard its nature please, I'll explain why I chose it afterwards): In most (if not all) hentai doujinshi stories that don't feature rape, the girl almost always says 'no', even though further on she submits because she knows she wanted it anyway. Why? Because she's embarrased. Japanese girls usually are about that subject. Now, if a willing girl says 'no', why would Usagi, who is not willing according to your interpretation of the scene, keep her mouth shut? Yes, she blushes, because she's embarrased, but I never once heard her say 'no'. Besides that, how could Usagi end up at the club with Seiya if she didn't want to? Seiya doesn't strike me as one to drag her all the way there by her odangoes. If Usagi really didn't want to go with Seiya, she wouldn't have been there.
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Post by yumecosmos on Aug 10, 2007 1:03:15 GMT -5
Er... even if Usagi liked the female Seiya she would still be bisexual, since Usagi has obviously been attracted to Mamoru. To say she hasn't for the previous four seasons is just denial, regardless of who you think she should be with in the end. She is also attracted to Motoki in the first season. Uuh, this isn't directed at me, is it? It doesn't look it. No it was not. ^^; I was talking to the person who said Usagi is lesbian. As for the disco episode (181, right?) I never saw Usagi agreeing to do anything with Seiya. She went into the room with him, then started to freak out because she thought it was "dangerous" with just the two of them, so admittedly her thoughts were going in that direction. But I don't think that means she wanted to. Just because she's thinking "OMG is he hitting on me?!?!1" doesn't mean she's ready to succumb to his hypothetical advances. Okay, here's a little fact (disregard its nature please, I'll explain why I chose it afterwards): In most (if not all) hentai doujinshi stories that don't feature rape, the girl almost always says 'no', even though further on she submits because she knows she wanted it anyway. Why? Because she's embarrased. Japanese girls usually are about that subject. Now, if a willing girl says 'no', why would Usagi, who is not willing according to your interpretation of the scene, keep her mouth shut? Yes, she blushes, because she's embarrased, but I never once heard her say 'no'. Besides that, how could Usagi end up at the club with Seiya if she didn't want to? Seiya doesn't strike me as one to drag her all the way there by her odangoes. If Usagi really didn't want to go with Seiya, she wouldn't have been there. I don't really understand your logic there. If saying no means she wants to and not saying no also means she wants to, how would she indicate that she didn't want to? And Usagi does not submit later on. She remains loyal to Mamoru to the end. Usagi wanted to go to the club with Seiya. That doesn't mean she wanted him to hit on her. Usagi has plenty of reasons to be nervous. Her boyfriend is far away, Seiya has shown obvious interest in her, and to an outside observer it probably would look like they're involved; others have even assumed that they're dating before. It's an awkward situation, to say the least. But she knows Seiya is being nice and trying to cheer her up, so she goes along with it. And they end up dancing and having fun as friends, which is all Seiya ever intended it to be. I never said Usagi didn't like Seiya. They're friends, and Usagi is too nice to hurt his feelings by bluntly rejecting him. She also knows that she's misinterpreted Seiya's words in the past. This time as well, regardless of what Usagi is reading into Seiya's words, his intentions were never anything but dancing. This indicates a certain level of paranoia on Usagi's part. At any rate, she certainly doesn't look happy about it, if the giant sweat drop on her head is any indication.
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